172: #BucketGoals

Listen now (41 min) | Big dreams, and how to achieve them. (Jess likes to be told she can do it. KJ prefers to be told she can't.) This week, we’re talking goals, because KJ (and her co-writer, Wendi Aarons) nailed a big one: Daily Shouts, at NewYorker.com (read TK here). Some outcomes (like this one) are controlled by other people, but even then, setting the goal and taking steps to get there is the only way to make them happen. Contrary to the infamous advice of David Sedaris on Episode TK, if you don’t submit to The New Yorker, you’ll never get anything in there—and the same goes for everywhere else.

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